=================================== Dragon Age: Origins Dual-Wielding Warrior Guide by John Say, i_am_johnsay@yahoo.com Copyright 2010 John Say =================================== ----------------- TABLE OF CONTENTS ----------------- 1.0 Introduction aka. What the guide is all about 1.1 What is the Dual-Wielding Warrior? 1.2 DW Warriors vs. DW Rogues 2.0 Building your DW Warrior 2.1 Attributes 2.1.1 Strength 2.1.2 Dexterity 2.1.3 Willpower 2.1.4 Magic 2.1.5 Cunning 2.1.6 Constitution 2.1.7 Allocating your Points 2.2 Skills 2.2.1 Coercion 2.2.2 Stealing 2.2.3 Trap-Making 2.2.4 Survival 2.2.5 Herbalism 2.2.6 Poison-Making 2.2.7 Combat Training 2.2.8 Combat Tactics 2.3 Talents 2.3.1 Warrior Talents 2.3.2 Dual-Wielding Talents 2.3.3 Warden's Keep DLC Bonus Talents 2.4 Specializations 2.4.1 Berserker 2.4.2 Champion 2.4.3 Reaver 2.4.4 Templar 2.5 Race and Origins 2.5.1 Human Noble 2.5.2 City Elf 2.5.3 Dalish Elf 2.5.4 Dwarf Commoner 2.5.5 Dwarf Noble 3.0 Playing your Warrior in a nutshell 4.0 Final Thoughts 5.0 Credits, etc. 6.0 Spoiler Section =============== VERSION HISTORY =============== ver 1.4, 05 September, 2011 - Added new notes to Talent section (specifically on Precise Striking, Dual Striking and Momentum Sections) - Added new info on City Elves section - Clarified some things about the builds - yes Dual Daggers are the absolute top DPS when DW Warriors are concerned ver 1.3, 07 March, 2010 - Added notes to Templar Specialization and Playing your Warrior sections - Added notes to Dual Striking Talent - Fixed some typographical errors ver 1.2, 15 February, 2010 - Added a Main-Hand + Dagger option in the attributes section - Added notes to Dalish Elves section ver 1.1, 05 February, 2010 - Clarified certain parts by changing their wording - Added notes on some talents ver 1.0, 04 February, 2010 - Initial Release ---------------- 1.0 INTRODUCTION ---------------- Alright, welcome to the guide! I'm John, and welcome to my guide on Dual- Wielding Warriors for Dragon Age: Orgins. This is my first guide for DA:O. I am writing the guide purely from a casual player's perspective, because, let's face it, there isn't really any point to min-maxing in a single player game. Having said that, however, it doesn't mean that we won't be optimizing our character. Of course, all I will be giving are recommendations, so you're free to disagree with anything written here. In fact, if you have your own opinions, I'd appreciate the feedback. One last thing, I tried my best to avoid having spoilers whenever I can. For those bits of info that I find relevant to the DW Warrior, but could possibly be a spoiler to some people are compiled into their own section, so people can avoid them if they want to. Anywho, let's get on with it, shall we? 1.1 What is the Dual-Wielding Warrior? -------------------------------------- Anyone who has played a Warrior in DA:O knows that Warriors have all the talent trees for any weapon combination: 2-Handers, Dual Wielding, Archery and Shield talents to be exact. The name speaks for itself: A Dual-Wielding Warrior (or DW Warrior) uses 2 one-hand weapons and invests in talents around their use. It is a very easy build to play, and perfect for those new to the game. DW Warriors are primarily damage dealers. They are terrible at tanking compared to Weapon+Shield Warriors, and the jury is still out on what Character class actually deals the most damage, but as I've said before, this guide is not about min-maxing and more about having fun with the game, so it doesn't really matter. That being said, there is something worth mentioning before we move on with the guide. 1.2 DW Warriors vs. DW Rogues ----------------------------- A lot of people might say "If you wanna DW, go with a Rogue." There are a lot of tempting reasons to go with a rogue over a DW Warrior. I will go over the various pros and cons between the 2 playstyles: DW Rogue + Can open locked doors and chests and, detect and disarm traps + More criticals due to backstabbing + Stealth - Damage is reliant on backstabbing which requires careful positioning, hence, idle moments while moving into position - Typically low Armor, which pretty much means you're dead when you grab aggro - Pretty much stuck with Dual Daggers when optimizing for damage DW Warrior + No positioning required, which means you can go crazy right off the bat + Typically higher armor, which equates to better survivability + More weapon options, since they can afford to invest in Strength - No backstabbing = Less criticals - No Stealth - No opening locks and disarming traps Clearly, both playstyles have their merits. Utility-wise, a DW Rogue is better but has more complexity during play, so if you're anything like me and can't really be bothered with all that, go with a DW Warrior. ---------------------------- 2.0 BUILDING YOUR DW WARRIOR ---------------------------- As I have mentioned, the primary role of a DW Warrior is to deal damage, which means we need to allocate our stats and skills with that role in mind. We also need to take note which race and origin we are going to start with, as it will affect your starting attributes, skills and talents. 2.1 Attributes -------------- Attributes define your Warrior in a big way. They determine how much damage he does, what equipment he can wear, and what talents and skills are available to him. I will describe each stat's effects and their relevance in building your Warrior. 2.1.1 Strength (STR) -------------------- Strength increases damage from all weapons except crossbows and staves. It also increases attack in melee by 0.5 per point, and physical resistance by 0.5 per point. It also makes Intimidation checks easier. Most equipment and talents require a certain amount of Strength in order for you to use them, so this will be one of our primary attributes. Depending on what equipment you'll be using, you'll either be putting all spare points here, or take just enough for all your talents and equipment. 2.1.2 Dexterity (DEX) --------------------- Dexterity affects how often your attacks hit by increasing melee attack score by 0.5 per point. It also increases damage from daggers. Less importantly, it also increases defense by 1 per point, and increases physical resistance by 0.5 per point. Daggers and several weapon talents require a minimum Dexterity score, so this is our other primary attribute. Going with 2 daggers will make you want to add as much Dexterity as possible; otherwise, get enough for all your talents. 2.1.3 Willpower (WIL) --------------------- Willpower increases stamina by 5 per point and contributes to mental resis- tance. Basically, having more Willpower means you'll be able to use your abi- lities more often. This is where you'd have a little more freedom with your DW Warrior. If you're like me, who enjoys spamming abilities to kill stuff, a few points here won't hurt. Though keep in mind, using abilities won't trigger Elemental damage from Runes and Mage Sustained Abilities, so deciding how much Willpower to go with is a matter of taste. Of course, you can always just invest in a lot of Deep Mushrooms for Stamina regen. 2.1.4 Magic (MAG) ----------------- Magic increases spellpower by 1 per point, contributes to mental resistance, and increases effectiveness of potions, poultices, and salves. None of these matter with your DW Warrior, so don't add any points in Magic 2.1.5 Cunning (CUN) ------------------- Cunning contributes to armor penetration & mental resistance, as well as make Persuasion checks easier. If you plan on getting the Coercion talents, get enough Cunning for those skills, otherwise skip it. 2.1.6 Constitution (CON) ------------------------ Constitution increases health by 5 per point and increases physical resistance by 0.5 per point. If you find yourself getting knocked out too often, you might be tempted to put a few points here. Personally, I think it's a waste since paying attention to the battle is a much better option. 2.1.7 Allocating your Points ---------------------------- When determining final values for your attributes, take note that each spe- cialization gives bonuses to your base attributes, which is counts towards determining required stats for Equipment. More on this will be discussed later. You have the option of getting 2 Specializations, so keep their respective bonuses in mind. Also, certain items give bonuses to your Attributes. They also contribute to minimum requirements for Equipment. There are 3 approaches in deciding where to put stats, and they differ based on which weapons you plan on wielding: Dagger + Dagger, Main Hand + Main Hand, or Main Hand + Dagger. I list down my recommended stats (counting bonus stats from specializations) for both options below: ********************** OPTION 1 - DUAL DAGGER ********************** STR - 42 DEX - Max WIL - Base MAG - Base CUN - Base or 16 CON - Base Going for this option gives your Warrior the fastest possible auto-attack speed, which means this path makes best use of Elemental damage from Runes and Mage Sustained Abilities. This path supposedly has the highest DPS (Damage- per-Second) of any warrior in the game. Despite having much lower numbers per hit, the sheer speed of your attacks makes up for it. This works best against single targets. On a side note, they make decent avoidance tanks with their high Defense coming from Dexterity. Sure, they won't be as great at it as Sword+Shield Warriors, but the game is easy enough as it is without needing to go for the "absolute best" spec. Since damage from daggers benefit from DEX, we would want it as high as possible. Going for high DEX also ensures that your attacks hit more often, and provide your warrior with a ton of defense. The heaviest armors require 42 STR, but you may need less if you don't plan on wearing them. Master Coercion requires 16 CUN, but you can skip it entirely if you want. Finally, as an auto-attacking spec, abilities are thrown out somewhat sparingly, thus no points are allocated to WIL. ********************************* OPTION 2 - DUAL MAIN-HAND WEAPONS ********************************* STR - MAX DEX - 36 WIL - Base or around 20-25 MAG - Base CUN - Base or 16 CON - Base On the other side of the spectrum, going for Main-hand weapons gives you less auto-attack speed in general, but makes up for it by showing you much bigger numbers per hit. You'd want to stick to Swords and/or Axes with this build since Maces aren't really that great. Your abilities will also hit harder. Keep in mind that this path probably deals less overall DPS than the dual-dagger route, but if you find that auto-attacking is boring and you actually want to press a few buttons then this path is for you. 36 DEX will be enough to get all Dual Wielding talents. STR contributes to your damage so every extra point goes here. Again, Master Coercion is optional and WIL is left to your discretion. ************************************* OPTION 3 - MAIN HAND + DAGGER OFFHAND ************************************* STR - MAX DEX - 30 WIL - BASE or around 20-25 MAG - Base CUN - Base or 16 CON - Base The 3rd option is to go middle ground by equipping one main hand weapon and a dagger on the off-hand. This build makes better use of elemental damage runes than using 2 main-hand weapons (since your off-hand is faster), and deals slightly more damage with abilities than the dual dagger option (because of the main-hand weapon). However, being a hybrid build means you'll have to live with the fact that you are sub-optimal at both auto-attacking and ability spamming. Still, as the point of this guide is not to min-max, it is still an option to consider. 30 DEX is enough to wield Tier 7 Daggers in the off-hand, as well as get all relevant talents. Since damage from daggers also benefit from STR, we put all spare points in it. Finally, CUN and WIL are set to taste. 2.2 Skills ---------- Skills are abilities that are designed to be used outside of combat. As such, they provide other benefits to your party, as well as give access to certain items in the game. Some quests also require you to have the corresponding skill in order to start or complete. In this section, I will briefly describe each skill and what effects they have in your gameplay experience. 2.2.1 Coercion -------------- Skill Levels: - Coercion - Requires 10 CUN - Improved Coercion - Requires 12 CUN - Expert Coercion - Requires 14 CUN - Master Coercion - Requires 16 CUN This skill provides Intimidation and Persuasion options during dialogue. I've always opted to get this whole tree, but some people can live without it. It makes for a better playing experience IMO so I suggest getting it. 2.2.2 Stealing -------------- Skill Levels: - Stealing - Requires 10 CUN - Improved Stealing - Requires 12 CUN - Expert Stealing - Requires 14 CUN - Master Stealing - Requires 16 CUN This skill gives a character the ability to pickpocket NPCs. Leliana starts with 3 levels of Stealing, so you're better off leaving most of the attempts to her. 2.2.3 Trap-Making ----------------- Skill Levels: - Trap-Making - Improved Trap-Making - Requires Level 4 - Expert Trap-Making - Requires Level 7 - Master Trap-Making - Requires Level 10 The first of the crafting skills enables characters to construct traps or lures from common components, so long as they also possess a plan to build the me- chanism. The second and fourth rank of this skill also increase the range at which the character can detect enemy traps. Plans can be bought from NPC ven- dors, or found. Characters need at least 1 level in this skill in order to use traps. This can make for some interesting battle tactics with a Rogue, but since you aren't one, why bother? 2.2.4 Survival -------------- Skill Levels: - Survival - Requires 10 CUN - Improved Survival - Requires 12 CUN - Expert Survival - Requires 14 CUN - Master Survival - Requires 16 CUN Having a character with this skill in your party enables you to detect the presence of nearby creatures. Additional levels improve the level of creatures detected, and provide additional information. Also adds Nature Resistance, and Physical Resistance when maxed. It's not that great IMO, but a decent place to place excess skills. 2.2.5 Herbalism --------------- Skill Levels: - Herbalism - Improved Herbalism - Requires Level 4 - Expert Herbalism - Requires Level 7 - Master Herbalism - Requires Level 10 The second crafting skill, and IMO, one of the better ones. This enables the character to create potions poultices, and salves. As with Trap-Making, you need the corresponding plan to create a particular item. Having more Healing Poultices and Mana Potions lying around is never a bad thing, while the other items can be useful from time to time. Morrigan starts with 2 levels of this, which would make you want to leave all the potion-brewing to her. 2.2.6 Poison-Making ------------------- Skill Levels: - Poison-Making - Improved Poison-Making - Requires Level 4 - Expert Poison-Making - Requires Level 7 - Master Poison-Making - Requires Level 10 The 3rd and final crafting skill enables the character to craft poisons and grenades. I used to not really bother with Poisons, Bombs and Coatings, but I've come to like them a lot recently since they're additional damage at little cost. A dual-dagger setup is recommended to make full use of weapon modifiers like poisons, so consider that before deciding to use poisons on a regular basis. At least 1 level of this skill is required for a character to use poisons and grenades. Zevran starts with 3 levels of Poison-Making, so leave the crafting to him if ever. 2.2.7 Combat Training --------------------- Skill Levels: - Combat Training - Improved Combat Training - Expert Combat Training - Master Combat Training This skill unlocks the corresponding tiered weapon talents. Get them as your first priority. 'Nuff said. 2.2.8 Combat Tactics -------------------- Skill Levels: - Combat Tactics - Requires 10 CUN - Improved Combat Tactics - Requires 12 CUN - Expert Combat Tactics - Requires 14 CUN - Master Combat Tactics - Requires 16 CUN This skill allows more script options in the tactics system. If you're like me and you're too lazy to micro-manage all your characters, then get this skill as a second priority for your other party members. If you enjoy combat party management, then this isn't necessary. 2.3 Talents ----------- Now to the meat of the build. Talents define what your Warrior will be able to accomplish. In this section we will only be concerned with the Warrior and Dual-Wielding Trees. Shield, Two-Handed and Archery talents will be totally ignored and thus are not going to be covered in this section. 2.3.1 Warrior Talents --------------------- ======== Powerful ======== Passively reduces fatigue, increases hit points and enables you to use heavier armor with less penalty to ability usage. Every Warrior should have this. ======== Threaten ======== Increased threat while active. This is a tank ability, and should almost never be used. ======= Bravery ======= Passive bonuses to damage, physical resistance, and mental resistance, as well as a bonus to critical chance that increases proportionally if you engage more than 2 enemies. Does not stack with the Bard Ability Song of Courage. I find it to be a bit lackluster, but necessary if you want Death Blow. ========== Death Blow ========== If your warrior strikes the final blow, he regains some stamina. Very tempting but since you're forced to take 2 bad talents before it, I personally wouldn't bother unless I have extra talent points lying around. This is a lot more useful when going with the Ability-spamming route (i.e. Main-Hand weapons) ================ Precise Striking ================ Increases Attack and Critical Hit chance while active, at the cost of attack speed. The drawbacks far outweigh the potential benefits, so for the most part, it will be left unused. There is one instance where this ability shines - in a party with a Mage with Haste. There is a bug that exists that when melee attack speed modifiers exceed a total of 0.5, it resets the modifier to a rolled-back value of 1.0. Since Momentum has a 0.3 modifier, while Haste has a 0.25 modifier, adding Precise Striking's speed modifier (-0.1), will give you a net of 0.45 speed, allowing you use of both speed modifier effects without going over 0.5, giving your warrior extremely fast attack speeds, a decent attack bonus, and critical chance bonus as well. ===== Taunt ===== Increases threat to nearby foes on activation. Don't use it unless you need to off-tank (which is unlikely) or want to die quickly. Sets up enemies for AoE abilities, though. ========= Disengage ========= Reduces threat to nearby enemies on activation. Useful in some situations, but careful aggro management makes this mostly unnecessary. ================ Perfect Striking ================ Gives +100 attack for 15 seconds when activated. As with Death Blow, required investment in 2 bad talents makes this a low priority, especially since by the time you get to invest points here, Attack is probably no longer an issue. 2.3.2 Dual-Wielding Talents --------------------------- ==================== Dual-Weapon Training ==================== Your offhand weapon now deals damage closer to normal. Yes please! =================== Dual-Weapon Finesse =================== Passive increase to attack and defense by 5 each. Get it. ================== Dual-Weapon Expert ================== Increase critical chance by 2.5% and chance to make the target bleed. Yet another passive ability you have no reason not to get. =================== Dual-Weapon Mastery =================== Main-hand weapons (i.e. Swords, Axes and Maces) can now be equipped in the off- hand. Take it unless you plan on using a dagger in the off-hand. ============= Dual Striking ============= While active, the Warrior strikes with both weapons simultaneously, but your attacks cannot inflict regular Critical hits. This makes all your attacks hit with both hands instead of alternating between main and off-hand. The problem with this sustained ability is that it suffers from a very strange visual "bug", where every other attack passes through the target without re- gistering as a "miss". This happens to roughly 30% of all your auto-attacks while this ability is up. So while before I have liked this ability, upon further scrutiny, I find that it's not worth using despite the potential for "burst", because of the following reasons: 1. Each weapon will have it's own attack roll anyway, so there is a chance you hit with only one of your weapons, or none at all, then encounter the "miss" effect on the next strike, which leaves a net DPS loss. 2. It needs stamina to sustain, for a marginal "burst" effect, which isn't worth it for me now that I think about it. 3. The loss of critical strikes is too much, especially since Dual Striking does not provide any true damage increase. So my final verdict is, get it as a pre-requisite, then forget about it. ======= Riposte ======= The Warrior strikes with a stun dealing normal damage, then strikes with the second weapon with a critical hit if the target was stunned. Very powerful, especially since it is a fast "cast" ability, and is especially great against mages. ======= Cripple ======= The Warrior makes a critical hit which gives penalties to defense and attack on the target. Useful for shattering enemies, or against ranked opponents, but the stamina cost is a little on the steep side when compared to its damage output. ======== Punisher ======== The Warrior makes three blows against a target, dealing normal damage for the first two strikes and generating a critical hit for the final blow, if it hits. The target has a chance to suffer penalties to attack and defense, or be knocked to the ground. Though it is a little expensive, and on the slow side, it is still pretty good. Get it. ================= Dual-Weapon Sweep ================= The Warrior performs a frontal arc sweep with both weapons at 1.5x damage. Combined with its low cost and cooldown, it's your bread-and-butter AoE ability. It's even great for single-target DPS. Be careful with threat though. ====== Flurry ====== The Warrior performs 4 consecutive hits with normal damage. Low cooldown and cost means you should use it often. ======== Momentum ======== Increased attack speed, but drains stamina rapidly while active. Very nice if you can afford to keep it up all the time. Dual-dagger Warriors would probably use this more often since they won't rely on spamming abilities too much. Never use this in conjunction with a Mage's Haste without activating Precise Striking as well, because of the 0.5 speed modifier bug (See Precise Striking for more details) ========= Whirlwind ========= The Warrior hits all surrounding enemies with both weapons for normal damage. Your second AoE skill. Best used with 2 Main-hand weapons. 2.3.3 Warden's Keep DLC Bonus Talents ------------------------------------- ============ Blood Thirst ============ Increases movement speed, attack speed and critical hit-chance, at the expense of greater damage received and continuously diminishing health. Very risky, but if you can avoid getting hit a lot, it's worth it. ========== Blood Fury ========== Knocks down nearby enemies at the cost of some health. Very situational. 2.4 Specializations ------------------- So now we have an idea on what our DW Warrior can do, it's now time to pick a specialization. Warriors have a choice between 4 specializations: Berserker, Champion, Reaver and Templar. I will discuss each specialization and what it brings to the table. 2.4.1 Berserker --------------- Specialization Bonus: +2 STR, +10 Health Berserkers focus on dealing damage, and will probably be your 1st choice as a specialization. Increased damage will come at a cost of increased Stamina con- sumption, so if you find you run out of stamina too quickly, add a few points in WIL. Talents: ======= Berserk ======= Increased damage with a significant penalty to stamina regeneration while active. This a great ability to have for our DW Warrior. ========== Resilience ========== Passively increases Nature Resistance and reduces the stamina regen penalty of Berserk. Very, very good. ========== Constraint ========== Further reduces the stamina penalty of Berserk. It just keeps getting better and better! ========== Final Blow ========== Consumes all your stamina for a single massive attack, with damage based on amount of stamina consumed. Powerful, but may not be worth spending all your remaining stamina on. It will also turn off your sustained abilities, so it is something to consider before using this ability. 2.4.2 Champion -------------- Specialization Bonus: +2 WIL, +1 CUN Champions provide abilities to improve your party's Attack and Defense as well as provide group debuffs for enemies. A good secondary Specialization if you want to add some utility to your DW Warrior. Talents: ======= War Cry ======= Surrounding enemies get a penalty to attack when activated. Not bad, though on its own isn't really a must-have. ===== Rally ===== Increases your entire group's attack and defense while active. Good, but has a high upkeep. ======== Motivate ======== Passive increase to the bonuses from Rally. Gives you a good reason to keep Rally up. =========== Superiority =========== War Cry now knocks down surrounding enemies in addition to its effects. Makes War Cry a must-have if you have the stamina for it. 2.4.3 Reaver ------------ Specialization Bonus: +1 CON, +5 Physical Resistance Reavers have talents that add some more damage to your attacks at the cost of some survivability, as well as provide some healing and a crowd control ability. This makes it a good secondary specialization. Talents: ====== Devour ====== Consumes corpses around you to restore some of your health. More health is never bad. Very useful in a pinch. ====================== Frightening Appearance ====================== Makes the target cower in fear unless it passes a Mental Resistance check. An extra stun is good, though its bonuses to Taunt and Threaten are negligible since you won't be using those abilities a lot, if at all. ============ Aura of Pain ============ You deal constant Spirit damage to yourself and all surrounding enemies while active. Good, but risky, as you could end up killing yourself from the damage or the extra threat you generate. Spirit Resistance gear mitigates the risk. ============ Blood Frenzy ============ You deal more damage as your health decreases while active. You also incur a penalty to health regeneration in this mode. Careful management of health will essentially make this a free source of damage, so use it at your leisure. 2.4.4 Templar ------------- Specialization Bonus: +2 MAG, +3 Mental Resistance Templars focus on anti-mage abilities, making it the most situational special- ization available to Warriors. IMO, Templar Talents are nothing to write home about, but the specialization itself does give you access to armor that gives hefty bonuses to spell resistance, making you a whole lot tougher to stop. Its final-tier talent is pretty interesting. This is the most defensive of all specializations available Talents: ================ Righteous Strike ================ Passively drains enemy mana per attack. Not bad, but some poisons do this more effectively. =========== Clease Area =========== Removes all dispellable effects from all nearby, friend or foe. Short of re- moving debuffs on your party, it's mostly useless since it also removes buffs. =============== Mental Fortress =============== Passive increase to Mental Resistance. Decent, but not really necessary. ========== Holy Smite ========== Inflicts Spirit Damage to target and all nearby enemies, and stuns or knocks them back unless they pass physical resistance checks. Enemies with mana must pass a mental resistance check else they lose mana and receive additional Spirit damage based on mana lost. Drawbacks include high Stamina cost and its melee range. A very interesting AOE ability that works as Crowd Control too. 2.5 Races and Origins --------------------- Deciding on which race and origin your Warrior will have has several effects on your Warrior. First off, each race has corresponding Racial bonuses which affect their starting stats. Second, the Origin Story you pick will affect what skills and talents your Warrior will start with. From a role-playing perspective, each Race and Origin Story combination also has its own flavor, and thus provides a different game experience for each playthrough. 2.5.1 Human Noble ----------------- Racial benefits: +1 strength, +1 dexterity, +1 magic, +1 cunning Starting Stats: 15 STR, 14 DEX, 10 WIL, 11 MAG, 11 CUN, 13 CON Skills: Improved Combat Training Talents: Shield Bash Starting Attributes for Humans are pretty decent with respectable values for STR and DEX. They also start with 11 CUN, meaning less points need to be spent there if you want to get all the Coercion skills. Humans get the Combat Training skill up to the 2nd level for free, which means you have more freedom to allocate your Skill points later on. Their 1st talent, Shield Bash, is useless for DW Warriors and it's the Human's only drawback when it comes to starting stats. 2.5.2 City Elf -------------- Racial benefits: +2 Willpower, +2 magic Starting Stats: 14 STR, 13 DEX, 12 WIL, 12 MAG, 10 CUN, 13 CON Skills: Coercion, Combat Training Talents: Dual Weapon Sweep Elves start with the worst values for your two primary stats (STR and DEX) of all Warrior races. They also have the highest MAG value, which is pretty much a waste of attribute points. They do have higher WIL, which can be good or bad depending on your playstyle. Elves make up for it by getting the talent Dual Weapon Sweep for free, which is 1 talent point less to worry about later on. City Elves also start with Coercion, so they're better off with dialogue options earlier than other races. One thing of note is that City Elves have access to one of the best off-hand daggers in the game: Fang ---- Tier 7 Dragonbone Requires: 38 dexterity Damage: 7.20 Critical Chance: 5.40% Armor Penetration: 10.00 3 Rune Slots +3 cunning +5% melee critical chance +6 attack +10% critical/backstab damage +1 nature damage This weapon is available on consoles with the above stats. On PC's, apply the following mod to get access to the proper tier: http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1021 2.5.3 Dalish Elf ---------------- Racial benefits: Same as City Elf Starting Stats: Same as City Elf Skills: Survival, Combat Training Talents: Dual Weapon Sweep (Xbox 360) Dalish Elves are pretty much the same as their City counterparts. Bad starting attributes compared to other Warriors with Dual Weapon Sweep to make up for it. Instead of Coercion, though, Dalish Elves start with Survival, which is a pretty bad Skill IMO. This makes the Dalish Elves possibly the worst race/origin to start with as a DW Warrior, and should be avoided for efficiency's sake unless you like their origin story better. Note: In the PC version, Dalish Elves start with Pinning Shot instead of Dual Weapon Sweep, making them even worse to start with. 2.5.4 Dwarf Commoner -------------------- Racial benefits: +1 strength, +1 dexterity, +2 constitution, 10% chance to resist hostile magic Base Stats: 15 STR, 14 DEX, 10 WIL, 10 MAG, 10 CUN, 15 CON Skills: Stealing, Combat Training Talents: Dual Weapon Sweep Dwarves start with the highest CON values of all Warrior races, which really only matters when rolling a tank. They also start with a 10% Magic Resist ability which is really great. Dwarf Commoners start with 1 level of Stealing, a relatively decent skill. Finally, they start with Dual Weapon Sweep. All of this combined makes Dwarf Commoners the most efficient race/origin for a DW Warrior, IMO. 2.5.5 Dwarf Noble ----------------- Racial benefits: Same as Dwarf Commoner Base Stats: Same as Dwarf Commoner Skills: Improved Combat Training Talents: Shield Bash The Dwarf Noble starts with the same attributes as the Dwarf Commoner. They also get the 10% Magic Resist ability, but that's where their similarities end. DWarf Nobles start with the 2nd level of Combat Training like Humans do, as well as get Shield Bash for free. This makes the race/origin combination great Attributes-and-Skills-wise, but terrible Talents-wise. -------------------------------------- 3.0 PLAYING YOUR WARRIOR IN A NUTSHELL -------------------------------------- DW Warriors are just about the easiest class to play in DA:O. All you need to do is get in range and start whacking at your opponents. If you have a tank, make sure he builds a certain amount of threat before you start going crazy. Opting to go with the heaviest armor helps in your survivability when you find yourself pulling aggro often, and make sure you chug those health pots when needed. Dual-dagger Warriors will deal a bit less damage with abilities, so it would be a better option to keep your sustainables up at all times and auto-attack your targets. All sustained abilities should be up at all times, and you'll be stabbing enemies like crazy. In most fights, you'll probably end up being the tank, but with your high Defense, you won't be a slouch at it. Dual Main-Hand Warriors on the other hand would focus on active abilities rather than sustainables. An option would be to use Taunt and/or positioning to make full use of AoE abilities like Whirlwind. Expect to see bigger numbers here. You'll also generate a lot of aggro, but it won't be that big a deal since trash mobs die much too fast for it to be an issue. Mix and match these styles as you see fit. Just because you use two main-hand weapons doesn't mean you can't benefit from having Momentum up all the time. As far as companions go, there are only a few instances in the game where a Tank-DPS-Healer setup is really necessary so you can go with whatever lineup you feel like playing most of the time. There are some things to consider, though: - Having another Champion in the party would allow your Warrior to completely forgo the specialization and focus on the goodies of another specialization instead - If you're having problems in the Stamina department, consider having a Bard or Mage with Rejuvenate around at all times (Lelianna starts off as a bard) - Reavers would probably always want a dedicated healer in the group just to be safe (Wynne is heavily specced to that role early on) - Having multiple Warriors in a group would eliminate some of the need for a dedicated tank in most fights, so you can let them focus on damage instead. Though it'll be wise to have a character specced for tanking for those situations where you DO need a dedicated tank. (either Alistair, Shale or a Mage specced into Arcane Warrior does nicely) - Have a Rogue available at all times if you want to open all locked chests and doors. Lelianna or Zevran can be specced for that purpose ------------------ 4.0 FINAL THOUGHTS ------------------ Dragon Age: Origins enables players to explore various ways of playing the game. While some ways may seem better than others, there really isn't any wrong way of doing things. Taking into mind that, as a Single Player game, going for the "best possible" course of action is a moot point, only emphasizes that perspective more. Dual-Wielding Warriors offer a fun and easy way to complete the game for casual gamers, while offering a lot of options for more serious players at the same time. Variety is the spice of life, and DW Warriors are never lacking in that department. All that has been written here thus far refer to my own style of playing the DW Warrior. In no way do I claim to be the authority in the matter. If you find anything here that you disagree with, feel free to send some feedback my way. The only time we ever stop learning is when we've stopped living, I always say. ---------------- 5.0 CREDITS, ETC ---------------- Credits, Shout-outs, etc ------------------------ Big thanks to the people in the forums (http://social.bioware.com) for being a constant stream of ideas, which gave birth to the DW Warrior playstyle. More specifically, big thanks to dkjestrup in the forums and his Character Build Handbook. Thanks to Marc Seguin aka Asmiroth and his detailed guide on the classes for inspiring me to make my own. Thanks to the Dragon Age Wiki (http://dragonage.wikia.com) for their info. And finally, to Bioware, for making such a kick-ass game! Who can use this guide? ----------------------- Anybody can use this guide for their own, personal use. Only the following sites should have this guide posted: http://www.gamefaqs.com http://www.neoseeker.com http://www.supercheats.com http://www.RPGLord.com More will be added in the future. Copyright 2011 John Say ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ****************************** ***WARNING - SPOILERS AHEAD*** ****************************** ------------------- 6.0 SPOILER SECTION ------------------- If you're reading this, you have been warned. Included here are the aspects of the game which is relevant in building your DW Warrior, but you may not want to know if you don't want any spoilers. More will be added as I get to them. 6.1 BROKEN CIRCLE Quest Line ------------------------------ Before finalizing how many points we put in each stat, take note that traveling in the Fade during the [BROKEN CIRCLE] questline gives you permanent attribute bonuses if you find all 21 items to interact with. Attribute bonuses are as follows: STR - +4 DEX - +4 WIL - +4 MAG - +2 CUN - +5 CON - +2 These bonuses are added directly to your base attributes and count towards requirements for Equipment, Skills and Talents. 6.2 Lothering Quests -------------------- There are 3 quests in Lothering that require a character in your party to have a particular skill to start, and they are as follows: - [TRAPS ARE A GIRL'S BEST FRIEND] - Requires Trap-Making - [MORE THAN JUST PLANTS] - Requires Herbalism - [A POISONOUS PROPOSITION] - Requires Poison-Making 6.3 Brecilian Forest -------------------- The quest [ELORA'S HALLA], has a dialogue option to complete it that requires Improved Survival. But since you can complete the quest without that option, it's not really a necessity. 6.4 Denerim ----------- The [CRIME WAVE] Quest line from Slim Couldry requires your main character to have at least 1 level in Stealing or Stealth else he won't even be in Denerim. Since Warriors can't ever get Stealth, Stealing is your only option. 6.5 How to Unlock Warrior Specializations ----------------------------------------- Berserker - Learned from Oghren if your approval is high enough, or buy the manual from Gorim in the Denerim market place Champion - Completing the Urn of Sacred Ashes and curing Arl Eamon will unlock the Champion specialization if his offer for a reward is not turned down. Reaver - Defile Andraste's Ashes and Kolgrim will teach you the specialization. Wynne and Lelianna would turn on you, though. Templar - Learned from Alistair if your approval is high enough, or buy the manual from Bodahn Feddic at camp. More to come as the need arises. --------- ---END--- ---------